What sparks joy for Marie Kondo these days? In 2011, the Japanese tidying expert became a global phenomenon after publishing her book, The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up. Overnight, she went from decluttering other people’s homes to being known everywhere for her KonMari method which encourages people to only keep items that "spark joy". But after having three children, has she now changed her mind about mess? 🎧 https://bbc.in/421LdeQ | BBC World Service